
NIC Chats
Get to know some of the leading voices and business leaders influencing seniors housing and skilled nursing today. Expect a little more humor, a few good stories from the frontlines, and perhaps a priceless insight gained from deep experience.
Episodes
46 episodes
NIC Chats Podcast with Eric Winograd
In this episode of NIC Chats, host Lisa McCracken sits down with Eric Winograd, Chief Economist at AllianceBernstein, to unpack the economic turbulence shaking markets, businesses, and households across the U.S. and beyond. From dramatic policy...
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29:29

NIC Chats Podcast with John Burns
What does the future of senior living look like when real estate trends intersect with the needs of a new generation? Host Lisa McCracken sits down with real estate researcher John Burns, CEO of John Burns Research and Consulting, to uncover th...
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29:51

NIC Chats Podcast On the Road with Jennifer Adams
Is the caregiver shortage keeping you up at night? You're not alone—and there's a solution. In this episode of NIC Chats, recorded live at the 2025 NIC Spring Conference in San Diego, Lisa McCracken, Head of Research & Analytics at...
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27:38

NIC Chats Podcast On the Road with Paul Jarvis
The traditional HR department is undergoing a transformation in senior care. What was once a siloed administrative function is now emerging as a strategic driver of business outcomes—when implemented correctly.This eye-opening conversat...
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31:37

NIC Chats Podcast with Ryan Novaczyk
In this episode of NIC Chats, Lisa McCracken sits down with Ryan Novaczyk, CEO of New Perspective Senior Living, to explore his insights as an operator in the senior living industry pursuing a growth strategy. Novaczyk shares a pers...
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31:42

NIC Chats Podcast with Abby Miller Levy
Is the aging population a golden opportunity for entrepreneurs? Hear from an expert in the world of AgeTech and longevity investing, Abby Miller Levy, managing partner and founder of Primetime Partners, a venture fund focused on aging and longe...
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30:24

NIC Chats Podcast with Sean Kelly
Sean Kelly, President and CEO of Front Porch, one of the nation’s largest not-for-profit senior living providers, joins the NIC Chats podcast to discuss the evolving landscape of senior living. Sean shares his unique journey into the industry, ...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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34:55

NIC Chats Podcast with Jim Lydiard
In this episode of NIC Chats, host Lisa McCracken welcomes Jim Lydiard, Chief Strategic Advisor for Pine Park Health, to discuss value-based care in senior living. Jim shares his journey from a personal connection with senior care to becoming a...
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Season 3
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Episode 5
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40:48

NIC Chats Podcast with Dianne Munevar
How can senior housing operators position themselves for success in the evolving healthcare landscape? Hear insights on this and more from Dianne Munevar, Vice President of Healthcare Strategy at NORC at the University of Chicago. In conversati...
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Season 3
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Episode 4
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33:35

NIC Chats Podcast On the Road with Brett Landrum and Paul Jarvis
In this episode of NIC Chats, recorded live at the NIC Fall Conference in Washington DC, host Lisa McCracken interviews ProCare HR’s Brett Landrum, founder and co-CEO, and Paul Jarvis, head of sales and marketing. The conversation explores ProC...
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Season 3
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Episode 3
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28:48

NIC Chats Podcast with Paul Ashworth
Has the labor market reached a tipping point? And, why is healthcare one of the few sectors with employment numbers still below pre-pandemic peaks? Listen in as Paul Ashworth, Chief North America Economist for Capital Economics joins Lisa McCra...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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29:06

NIC Chats Podcast with Fee Stubblefield
Fresh off the release of his new book, A Culture of Promise, Fee Stubblefield, Founder and CEO of The Springs Living, joins Lisa McCracken on a new episode of the NIC Chats podcast. Listen in as Fee shares his motivation for writing the book an...
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Season 3
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Episode 1
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29:45

NIC Chats Podcast On the Road at the 2024 NIC Spring Conference
Live from the 2024 NIC Spring Conference, listen in as Lisa McCracken, Head of Research & Analytics at NIC, sits down with Brett Landrum, Procare HR Founder and Co-CEO. Landrum expands on the capabilities that allow Procare HR to help opera...
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Season 2
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Episode 5
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NIC Chats Market Conditions Podcast with Zach Bowyer
Listen in as Beth Mace, Senior Advisor at NIC, sits down with Zach Bowyer, Senior Managing Director and head of living sectors at Cushman and Wakefield to discuss today’s capital markets, including the intersection of property market fundamenta...
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Season 2
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Episode 4
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37:28

NIC Chats Podcast On the Road with Brett Landrum
Are you ready to unravel secrets to success with the senior living workforce? In this episode of the NIC Chats podcast, broadcast live from the 2023 NIC Fall Conference in Chicago, NIC’s Head of Research & Analytics, Lisa McCracken, discuss...
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Season 2
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Episode 3
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26:38

NIC Chats Market Conditions Podcast with Al Della Porta
Delve into the senior housing transaction market with Beth Mace, Senior Advisor at NIC, in this captivating conversation with Al Della Porta, Managing Director and head of the Capital Markets Group at AEW Capital Management. Learn about the cha...
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Season 2
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Episode 2
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29:46

NIC Chats Market Conditions Podcast with Jim Costello
In this first episode of our new NIC Chats podcast series focused on today's capital market conditions and implications for senior housing and care, NIC senior advisor Beth Mace speaks with Jim Costello, chief economist on the MSCI Real Estate ...
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Season 2
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Episode 1
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34:24

NIC Chats Podcast with Beth Mace
In this special episode, discover the remarkable experiences and lessons learned from our very own host, NIC Chief Economist, Beth Mace. This time, Chuck Harry, NIC’s Chief Operating Officer, poses the very questions Beth has expertly asked mor...
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40:43

NIC Chats Podcast with Susan Barlow
Join us as we delve into Susan Barlow's inspiring journey, exploring how her interest in senior housing propelled her as Co-founder & Managing Partner of Blue Moon Capital Partners, and NIC Board Vi...
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35:38

NIC Chats Podcast with Kurt Read
What is thematic investing and why does Kurt Read swear by it? What makes a good investment opportunity? And did Kurt actually herd sheep for Rupert Murdoch? In th...
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Season 1
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Episode 26
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36:10

NIC Chats Podcast with John Cochrane
“The senior housing industry shouldn’t be afraid to disrupt itself,” said John Cochrane, president and CEO of HumanGood, on the latest NIC Chats podcast with
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Season 1
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Episode 25
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39:05

NIC Chats Podcast with Brenda Bacon
How is “wellness” defined in senior living? According to Brenda Bacon, founder & CEO of Brandywine Living, it’s about providing residents safety, protection, and happiness—a...
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Season 1
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Episode 24
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37:28

NIC Chats Podcast with Sarah Duggan
Q: What do Disney and the senior housing industry have in common? A: Sarah Duggan has worked at both, and they each rely on a strong culture to maintain their workforce. D...
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Season 1
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Episode 23
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32:49

NIC Chats Podcast with Jane Arthur Roslovic
Have you considered Gen X as an audience for your communities? Jane Arthur-Roslovic, CEO & co-founder of multifamily developer and operator Treplus Communities has and is all in on the activ...
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Season 1
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Episode 22
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33:15

NIC Chats Podcast with Bob Kramer: Six Key Drivers Shaping the Senior Living Industry
Early in the COVID pandemic, Henry Kissinger noted that the historic challenge for leaders was to manage the crisis while building the future. This inspired NIC Co-Founder and Strategic Advisor, Bob Kramer, to consider what it means to build th...
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